Fair Dinkum?

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At Blacktown Fair not too long ago, WIRES animals were placed on public display.

According to WIRES Policy 1.8 (Use of WIRES Animals for Education and Exhibition Purposes) this is not permitted. This same policy makes it clear that it is against "the General Licence issued to WIRES" to do so.

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Did NPWS approve this display?

Did anyone on the WIRES Board know about this?

Has anything been done about it (until now)?

 

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mary
# RE: Fair Dinkum?mary 2012-01-20 08:19
Another joey had to be taken off a certain member,very underweight,again this person was allowed to have macropods after all the damning evidence against her,so how are we looking after the animals,disgusted and dissilluisoned again.
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anon
# RE: Fair Dinkum?anon 2012-01-20 15:27
Time to go outside of WIRES, try NPWS (they are now doing inspections) also try RSPCA. Good luck.
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Julian A
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Julian A 2011-12-29 17:20
Charmer.After investigation i can report that a member of the Wires Board was at Blacktown fair on that day. Also look at the photos Correct hygiene standards were not observed. Reptiles can carry Salmonella.Waterless hand sanitiser was not used with adults and children handling the reptiles.What about the cross infection that can occur with the reptiles
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Julian A.
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Julian A. 2011-12-19 12:34
Is this right? A WIRES WEB SIGHT . Pudding, A Rainbow Lorikeet, needs a carer feeding nectiivore, native flowers, occasional fruit. Comes complete with a cocky cage. Solitary Confinement for life. Lorikeets need communal activities ,warmth, possibly exchanging news about foraging places ,and finding a mate.
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geoaussie
# RE: Fair Dinkum?geoaussie 2011-11-15 07:08
i have been trying to have the rules changed so that controled and safe education of the public can be undertaken by licenced carers. My requests on this topic have been totally ignored by the Board. I do not agree with the above photos but I do think that very beneficial education can be achieved through schools and special interest groups. I have also found that I have support for this with NPWS but apparently to achieve change it also requires agreement from the Board.
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Wattlebird
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Wattlebird 2011-11-11 09:54
REFORM NOW - HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR THAT THE CURRENT BOARD HAS BEEN REMOVED AND CHANGE IS TAKING PLACE?
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It’s time
# RE: Fair Dinkum?It’s time 2011-11-05 18:14
Handling and housing of animals is just one issue that needs to be addressed. Carers treating rehab animals as lounge room pets is not only poor animal care, but is also the cause of friction between carers with high standards and those with poor standards. This escalates to involve who gets elected to coordinator positions;training and management positions.
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Pelican
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Pelican 2011-11-09 14:34
Exactly "It’s time".... & it has proven to be even worse ... with enough members wanting to keep lounge-room pets voting in co-ordinators & management with similar standards, they then also hold the balance of power to denigrate those with higher standards, excluding them, bullying & wielding threats of loss of authority, &, in many cases have succeeded in chasing them from the organisation. To date, this has also been done without [EDIT] intervention of the Board!
Reform now!
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Guest
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Guest 2011-11-12 06:31
In our branch its the ones who want joeys sitting on lounges eating arrowroot and taking them to shopping centres who are calling the coordinatos bullies for saying no
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Guest
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Guest 2011-10-31 08:35
Obviously been going on for as long as I have been a member (long time).
This all comes back to the concept of branches and each full reign of whatever they please. No control. No audits.
If our license compliance is required by NPWS then why isn’t it regular audited?
This would all be fixed quickly if regular audits were independently executed.
If WIRES was genuinely interested in the welfare of the animals and not the bickering and politics then there would not be splinter and competitive groups supposedly all doing the same thing.
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a guest
# RE: Fair Dinkum?a guest 2011-10-31 15:55
Well said Guest. If NPWS would take control and ensure all members were treated the same and had an equal say in what was decided, there would be no need for this website..
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guest
# RE: Fair Dinkum?guest 2011-11-03 22:37
By DECC giving WIRES a monopoly on wildlife caring and control of and power over volunteers there will always be bickering and politics - and not much else. Its overdue for the whole sick system to be overhauled - and quick.
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the dog
# RE: Fair Dinkum?the dog 2011-10-28 00:51
The blue tongue looks to have a broken back. Whether these animals are in WIRES ’care’ or are pets, this activity is illegal unless permission was given by National Parks for each animal. If a pet was used, National Parks permission is still required and the animal could only be handled by the licenced owner. Whether these are WIRES animals, pets or whether permission was granted or not, permission is not given for animals to be touched by the public and displayed without barriers. As Charmer says this is a double standard. My branch would never do this and I hope most branches and members would be horrified to see it - it gives us all a bad name. If a member of the board was present then this needs a full investigation and it should never happen again.
This display is to collect money. If public donations were used to support branches and members this may not be going on. I wonder why National Parks doesn’t do anything about these blatant breaches of policy and licence conditions? I wonder how often it happens and how long it’s been going on?
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Guest
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Guest 2011-10-24 20:16
[This is a reply to a comment that was deleted for legal reasons. S.}

This annoys me. I know people who breed for their snakes and raptors too and the animals they breed are well cared for and lead good lives till they are killed. It’s for a reason. They live well and are killed humanely. But by the people who are going to feed them. But they have the guts to care for the animals and kill themselves.
What about people who feed mince and insectivore to birds. Or heart and steak? Or eat meat? All that was animals once too theat was killed for food. Difference being it wasn’t killed just before serving and the carer didn’t do the act or control what sort of life that animal lived before being fed. It’s OK because it’s at a distance and you can be blind to it but not OK if you have a reason and take responsibility for the welfare of both food and eater?
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Toolie
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Toolie 2011-10-18 19:53
With respect, If the WIRES logo is shown, and it is a WIRES “Event”, Native Animal Pets should not be associated with it.
Any reasonable non-WIRES person would think that, that treatment of native animals is the norm for WIRES.
Sadly in some cases that is exactly what some WIRES members are in it for.
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GeoB
# RE: Fair Dinkum?GeoB 2011-10-18 22:50
Wrong again - these were not WIRES animals, but were used to educate the public in an area which is rife with reptiles which get bad publicity - the people involved were trying for some good publicity for them.
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Charmer
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Charmer 2011-10-18 23:03
Good intentions but wasn’t a member of the board there on the day? what they did was against policy and wires has hassled people for less to the point of forcing members out. Double standards is what is the problem here I think. Can’t use the rules to do good then use the same ones to belt someone over the head.
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Guest
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Guest 2011-10-18 17:32
Some of these are not local to the area and all appear fit. I suggest they are pets and not “WIRES animals”
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Charmer
# RE: Fair Dinkum?Charmer 2011-10-18 20:01
Yeah but that Bluey looks injured to me - look at its back.
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T.McPhil
# RE: Fair Dinkum?T.McPhil 2011-10-18 10:25
I have no time for WIRES, as an ex-member, but sometimes with displays like this members would display their own pets and not WIRES animals.
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